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People Who Telemark....

John Doe

 

Left: John & Excene rock the House of Blues. Right: X the band with Billy Zoom on guitar, D.J. Bonebrake on drums, Excene Cervanka singing, and on the far right is tele-brother John Doe on bass.

When John Doe and Excene Cervenka formed X in Venice Beach during the late '70s, no one knew that their mix of poetic punk and rock would soon make X one of the most influential bands in rock music history. Adored by critics and knowing fans, X never achieved the kind of record sales that would net them the national attention they deserved, but that fact did not deny the band their place in the rock and roll pantheon.

A decade ago the Los Angeles Times conducted a poll of rock critics across the U.S. asking them to rank the most influential L.A. based bands of all time, in a total shock to many music fans but not to those who follow the rock scene closely, X was named to the second spot, right behind The Doors (to which their form of "art-rock" has often been compared) and just ahead of The Beach Boys at #3. More recently, BAM magazine (think Rolling Stone but about rock music) listed the 50 Greatest Rock Albums to come out of California (this covers a lot of ground), X's "Los Angeles" was number two on the list. To put this in perspective, Neil Young's "After The Goldrush" was #5. BAM wrote: "From the Chuck Berry riffing that begins the disturbing "Johnny Hit And Run Paulene" to the strident, syncopated "Nausea," with its wildly psychedelic organ runs courtesy of Ray Manzarek (The Doors), "Los Angeles" is an exquisite album. Independently, both Exene Cervenka and then-husband John Doe had distinctive, impassioned and off-kilter vocal styles, but when fused together..it was unadulterated cool. Doe and Cervenka were the icons of hip marriage in the early '80s, their meeting at a poetry reading is the stuff of which legends are made. While their relationship, like the band, eventually fizzled, Los Angeles stands as a timeless testament of the punk-rock era. In nine short songs (many infused with an oft-overlooked humor), X legitimized the L.A. scene... In 1980, no one was cooler than Exene, John Doe, Billy Zoom and drummer D.J. Bonebrake. Today, there are still precious few who can hold a candle to X's attitude, style and songs."

 John Doe still plays with X and has his own band "The John Doe Thing". He is also a published poet and an actor who has appeared in more than 20 feature films (Boogie Nights, Great Balls Of Fire, Oliver Stone's Salvador) and a number of TV shows (Roswell, Veronica's Closet, Party Of Five, of which he says "I must have been broke that month but the teens were cute").

And he still makes great, vibrant, relevant music.

The John Doe Thing's most recent CD, "Freedom Is" contains a lot of that excellent kind of music. If you liked X, check it out. John Doe still has a lot to say, and as one reviewer wrote of the newest album: "In an age rife with ironic detachment, something as emotionally unguarded and musically charged as "Freedom Is" will probably be a tough sell to the blinkered masses, which is unfortunate. It ought to be required listening; it's that good."

These days John Doe lives in a quiet, rural community on the side of a mountain, North of L.A., with his wife Gigi and three daughters. It was here he fell-in with a rogue band of backcountry telemark skiing warriors who have been skiing the area's backcountry for nearly 20 years. I can't think of anyone I would rather interview for the first in the new Telemarktips.com series, "People Who Telemark". Everybody, meet John Doe...

 

 

Tt.com: Hey John, welcome to Telemarktips.com...so Rock and Roller by night and granola eating teleskier by day, how'd that come about? How did you find out about this sport and get started? How long have you been backcountry skiing?

JD: I can't say that granola is my favorite, more like bagels & cream cheese. I blame my wine & beer swilling friends for getting me into this calming/extreme sport. I started, like most, on the old fashion nordic skis. At first I used Rossignol's (from a yard sale) & then the waxless Karhu's with three pin bindings and ankle high (ankle busting) boots that were more like shoes. That lasted maybe five runs on my first short season, about four years ago.

Tt.com: Isn't it kind of hard to get up early and make the alpine start on a powder morning? I mean your career has gotta keep you up way late.

JD: I've got three words for all who might find themselves in this situation: MIND OVER MATTER (and once you're up on top; it doesn't matter).

 Tt.com: Yeah, the mind thing is key but so is Red Bull. Ever give that a try?

JD: Red Bull is the shit! Even though you can overdose, trust me, it's the best for driving. No rock tour or movie set is ever without it. It also goes well with Capt. Morgan (both the up & the psychedelic-- woooo-wee)

Tt.com: I prefer Ketel One, Tt.com runs on it and RB on the rocks. What kind of boots and skis have you been using?

JD: Borrowed, beat-to-shit Merrill Super-comps (thanks Steve) and military surplus Powder Plus skis with SuperLoop bindings (got them for the bindings & strap-on skins; thanks Ed).

Tt.com: Ah yes the infamous Powder Plus. Well, you did at least get some good bindings and skis to beat up. We'll get you on some better skis this season ...any thing you especially want in new skis?

JD: Although I've been very satisfied with the Powder Plus, I'm looking for skis with more shape for better carving and with more surface area (fatter). Something softer and lighter. The Powder Plus skis were a great deal and will still be used when the rocks poke out of the early and late season powder.

Tt.com: Have you ever gone and skied some lift served or are you getting it going exclusively in the backcountry?

JD: I went to Mountain High Resort (yikes what bad music) after doing Mt. Pinos backcountry several times. I have to cop to the fact that I don't use tele-turns exclusively. I'm learning and getting better, but when it gets tight I'll switch to parallel. Downhill areas are invaluable for me to work on turns, I can do so many more in a much shorter time.

Tt.com: Yeah and I find it just plain fun sometimes. Have the boys been dragging you around and letting you flounder or have they helped you out much?

JD: I think it's mandatory to drag around & let the "new guy" flounder. Otherwise, there would be too much humor lost. At some undetermined point they take pity on me & drop some pearls before swine, it's hard to say who's the swine in this case.

Tt.com: Have they gotten you lost yet?

JD: Not brutally lost with the group. But "does anybody really know what time it is?, does anybody really care?" There was one occasion where two of us (both novices in trail knowledge; thanks Kirk) got hopelessly lost, kept working our way down and, well, the rest is embarrassing, I don't want to talk about it and we got out, obviously, since I'm doing this interview. And aren't the most screwed up runs down the mountain the ones you talk about most?

Tt.com: A special part of backcountry skiing at our home mountain has always been the after-ski Saturday night jam sessions. So, tell us....how painful is it for you? Ever jump in?

JD: Not painful at all, 'cause I'm usually hangin' out with the women. I have jumped in on percussion or maybe once on drums, I was pretty lit so I don't really recall.

Tt.com: Do you have any goals for this season?

JD: New equipment ! ! I want better gear. I already have new boots, Scarpa T-2s and I want some new skis like we talked about. . .

Tt.com: Yeah, I think we have some skis in mind for you...How about ski
goals? Or destinations, I mean I'm sure Ed would volunteer to get us lost again on a trip out to Pear Lake Hut this winter. Would you be up for a little multi-day backcountry trip? Ed's not too great on the pathfinding but he's a helluva cook!

JD: Yo bro don't you be dissin' my homie Ed. He's never gotten us lost on Pinos & mighty fine vittels. We had a hellacious 10 mile ALL uphill to Glacier Point last year but a great snow camp. I must admit that I'm not all that savy on overnighters. Gimme some options.

Tt.com: Naw, I love Ed, best ski partner a guy could ever want to have, he showed me the first tele turn I ever saw! I have just never let him forget our epic journey and little unplanned side trip on the way to Pear Lake, way back when we were raw newbies. None of us had a clue actually. It was an awesome trip though, with a foot or two of fresh falling each night. I think you'd like that place. John, now that you have been doing this awhile, what aspect of backcountry skiing have you enjoyed the most?

JD: I defy anyone to find a better sight that topping the hill when the sun is coming up or making first tracks in 6 to 8 inches of fresh powder. Plus there's no bad music!

Tt.com: Are you into any other outdoor type stuff?

JD: At the risk of sounding like a Playmate of the Month, hiking and horseback riding.

 

Tt.com: OK, I've got to ask a couple of music questions....how is your solo project The John Doe Thing going? You toured last year with the Wallflowers, how was that? Matt said he saw you play an "X" band show recently and he said it went totally off, that it was the best show he'd ever seen you guys do in all the years he's been a fan. Any possibility of an "X" national tour or a new recording?

JD: Recently I've recorded a more acoustic sound with Joe Henry co-producing which is currently being "shopped". I toured as a solo act with the Wallflowers. Now that!, was daunting. All the audience wanted to hear, even from them, was "One Headlight". Luckily I have a few songs with the word "fuck" in them and since we played to a college crowd and that was new to them, they loved it. X plays about 15 shows a year, mostly on the west coast. Rhino has just re-issued the first three records; Los Angeles, Wild Gift and Under the Big Black Sun. All have been re-mastered with bonus tracks and expanded booklets. New recordings and or a national tour seem doubtful.

Tt.com: Now, back to the really important stuff: What is your prediction for the coming season at our backcountry home mountain?

JD: My personal, very connected, newly polished crystal ball says: HUUUGGE!!

Tt.com: Thanks John, hopefully that crystal ball shows a well plowed road and a wide open snow gate. We'll check back with you this season to get a progress report on how that new gear is working, especially those new boots and skis, if you don't mind...

JD: As for that well plowed road, our 1968, 1&1/4 ton, 4x4, Navy surplus Jeep pick-up is tuned & ready to rumble. We just need to get up past the gate the night before the baddies close it! You can take the pics and post 'em during the season.

Visit John's website: thejohndoething.com
 

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In this first Tt.com e-video interview, Russell Rainey of Rainey Designs describes his new production version of the HammerHead, in front of Timberline Lodge, Mt. Hood, Oregon. Taped last Friday (4/3), the video is a little over two minutes long and you will hear and see Rainey describe the changes to the HammerHead in his own words. We are providing two versions, a streaming version for those with dial-up modems downloading at 28.8 kpbs and a fat high quality standard mpeg version as well.

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