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Torbjorn Ragg On The Status Of The NTN

Rottefella Breaks Years Of Official Silence By Agreeing To An Interview

April, 27, 2005-- The New Telemark Norm (NTN) project continues to move forward. From the beginning the goal has been to update the interface between telemark boots and skis by jettisoning the 75mm duckbill toe, and adopting a tele boot norm similar in dimensions to the established Alpine Touring boot norm. Along with this, Rottefella has designed and patented an innovative binding with an under the forefoot attachment configuration, utilizing a special ledge to be built into NTN compatible boots. It's been a difficult project in that establishing a New Telemark Norm requires the cooperation of the boot makers, and others in the tele industry. This is in addition to the normal challenges any company faces in bringing an advanced new product to market. Not surprisingly, Rottefella has been reluctant to publicly discuss the NTN during the development process. The following Telemarktips.com exclusive interview with Marketing Manager Torbjorn Ragg are Rottefella's first official public comments on the project.

Q: There has been a lot of secrecy surrounding the development of the New Telemark Norm (NTN), leading to an extraordinary amount of speculation. First, why have you guys been so tight-lipped? and to what do you attribute this unprecedented interest in products that have yet to even be scheduled for release to the market?

A: First let me say that it has never been our goal to promote something new like the NTN and talk about products that we don't have, giving people the idea that it's something easy to accomplish. We know that it's very challenging to design a new product and bring a new system to market that works well. Of course as soon as people find out that we are trying to solve such a challenge, the rumors and speculation naturally follow, but we knew this was going to be a difficult task so we have tried hard to keep a low profile. Unfortunately the fact that we are unwilling to talk about it, is sometimes seen as a negative thing, some people draw the conclusion that since they haven't seen anything come out of the project, that maybe we don't know what we are doing, or that we have given up. That's just not the case.

Q: Yet there is so much interest....

A: Yes, we are aware of that, but it's our policy, as well as most of the European ski manufacturers..... ....we don't have a tradition of publicly focusing so much on what's going to come out in the future, but instead promote what we have now while working quietly on the next generation product line. And make no mistake, the task Rottefella has taken on when it come to the NTN is challenging, it's as simple as that. We knew it was going to be a long-term project.

Q: Yes, we've been writing about it on Telemarktips.com for many years. How close are we to seeing an NTN system on shop shelves?

A: We feel that we are very close to finding all the necessary solutions and to having a multi-functional, durable product unlike anything else currently available. Otherwise we wouldn't have shown our proto types at Livigno.

Q: Speaking of the proto types displayed at the Live Free Heel Festival recently, how far along are they? Are they what are known as "rapids," or are they closer to finished products? What stage of development do they represent?

A:. Well, our intention at Livgino was just to give the people a chance to see what the future will look like, but these proto types are not something we hand-made or cut out of stock material, all of the parts were either from molds or metal tooling. This current generation of NTN binding proto types were costly to produce, they should indicate to everyone that we have come pretty far, but whether or not they represent the final design, well, that's too early to say. Our testing has shown that there are certain functional improvements needed, and we are working on those at the moment. By the end of summer we expect we will have a new set of proto types for testing and hopefully we will get the answers we are looking for.

Q: It's a big project, isn't it?

A: It's a huge project. I know that you have also tinkered around a bit in your workshop there, testing the basic concept, and you found out that it is smart, that it works, but it's a long way from that to making a commercial product ready for the market. We know we have to make this work as it should, right out of the box.

Q: What do you feel are the key advantages of the NTN design?

A: We believe that using the geometry of the Alpine Touring boot norm offers many advantages, we can make better boots and higher performance bindings, we can make tele boots that are more compatible with crampons, and the basic concept of the underfoot attachment gives us an opportunity to design a completely new, and modern looking, boot/binding combination.

Q: For sometime we've been hearing from people that are considering trying freeheel skiing that our bindings look old and antiquated, like something that belong in a museum instead of on the mountain. On the other hand, most of my alpine skiing friends have had a much more positive reaction to some of the more modern looking tele bindings that have hit the market in the last few years.

A: That's interesting. We've had our testers out on the NTN boots and bindings in places like Chamonix, and at resorts here in Norway, and we've experienced the same reaction. The alpine skiers and the rando guys look at our prototypes and the response has been immediate. "I want to try telemark skiing on something like that." This is one of the things that tells us we are moving in the right direction.

Q: There has been a lot of talk on our TelemarkTalk Forum concerning the various features freeheel skiers would like to see incorporated into an NTN binding. Two of the most obvious and complimentary functions would seem to be an easy on/off touring mode, combined with an active design that helps keep the forefoot on the ski and break the boot at the bellows. With an underfoot attachment point, we would expect it to be an active binding, but the current NTN proto types also have a tour mode, correct?

A: Yes, that is right. We see an easy touring mode as being a very important feature. Actually, individually, we have come up with solutions for everything people wish for, the challenge is to put it all together in one binding. That's the tricky part. And to, at the same time, keep the weight at a decent level and the cost down to a point where it is affordable. Then there are performance considerations, you have to make sure it performs well for the skiers who ski hard using big boots, while keeping the people who don't ski so hard and use lighter boots happy as well, and so on, and so on.

Q: There are a lot of compromises that need to be made... is that what you are saying?

A: I think what we are seeing is that it is impossible to make a compromise product. Even though alpine bindings are required to do so much less than tele bindings, they don't make a single do-it-all product either, they have racing bindings, recreational and freeride bindings, and you have others that do this or that. Same with cross-country. Why should we expect one telemark binding to solve every issue? I'm pretty sure the future will bring us a system, or a concept, where there will be a number of different products within this system, each offering various combinations of features. Kind of like we already have today, I mean we have touring oriented bindings, resort oriented bindings, releasables, hinged plates, 3-pin bindings, cables, active, passive, etc.

Q: What about step-in? When you look at an alpine binding, and see how beefy the parts are that are required to make a reliable and strong step-in function, how will such a feature ever be made to fit under a tele skier's foot, as the NTN concept would seem to require?

A: What we have been looking at as far as step-in is something a little different. We have defined "easy-entry" as the main goal, not step-in. When we talk to the users they seem to agree with this approach, easy-entry is the key issue to solve, not necessarily to have a step-in. I wouldn't be surprised if you agree with that.

Q: I do. Absolutely. But don't get me wrong, the day we tele skiers can walk up to our bindings and step in and go like an alpine skier will be a great day, but personally I'm more concerned with seeing a progressive and innovative boot/binding system that looks and functions like what we would expect from 21st century freeheel gear.

A: We want that as well, and we want to help create more enthusiasm in the sport by updating the telemark boot/binding norm. If it is possible for us to solve the challenges in developing a new system we will do so, that is our goal. What we will not do is start rumors in the market by telling people that it's going to look and work like this or that, because that's not what we want to do. We showed something at Livigno that has been skied on by our testers and from which we have received good feedback, if it had been ready it would have already been released. It is not ready yet.

Q: So to sum up where we are at today with the NTN: you have advanced proto types that are being ski tested and you are working on another generation of bindings. In this next generation you are continuing to work on solutions to a few current issues. Is that right? Also, what are your goals as far as a time frame for release?

A: Yes, that's right, and we have a date and a release strategy in mind, and we are on target for that. But you will not be able to push me into giving you a specific release date at this stage. We know that we have taken on a great challenge and we will never release a product before it is 100% ready. Reliability has always been our concern, and don’t forget that Rottefella has been making Nordic bindings for more than 75 years. We have been in this business long enough to know that it is not very smart to release an unfinished product just to create hype.

Our target is very clear Mitch, we have resources to do this and we have decided to apply the necessary resources to move the NTN forward. The current norm severely limits what the industry can do in the future. The NTN can change all that. Our motives are genuine. We feel that the sport and the industry need this to progress.

Q: Torbjorn, thanks for taking the time to answer our questions on the NTN, best of luck to you and Rottefella.

A: Thank you Mitch.

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